Daniel Jones…Still Struggling -Coaching and Jones to Blame

Written by: Paul Burke

If we need anymore evidence on why John Mara needs to get the F out of the way and hire a football operations professional the attached video analysis by Kurt Warner piles on. It is year 3 for a guy who was, without a doubt, a reach at pick number 6 in the 1st round. Warner points out some of the fundamental flaws of DJ that should be well under his belt by now. Granted, some of this is coaching and coaching in the film room but DJ rushes the game versus playing fast. He rushes his decision making and mechanics as he reacts to the defense versus controlling what is in front of him. Perhaps he could get better with better coaching but it defines how broken this organization really is. The QB position is the most critical position in the game as the rules define that. The GM, disguised as a bag of dog shit with transition glasses, has miserably failed building an OL in front of him and to this day is still be reactive versus proactive

You also fail to develop him with sound coaching, scheme and coaching of fundamentals. It is year 3 and he can’t master some of the fundamental traits on how to be a successful QB in the league. The game is just too fast for DJ. In our opinion he could be a serviceable player but not one to carry a team. He is just too inconsistent and this tape analysis shows he is not reading the defense to his advantage.

Jason Garrett has been a coach in the league far too long from this damning tape analysis. How in the world was he a HC for as many years as he was in Dallas is beyond comprehension. If your players can’t play with sound technique and fundamentals you should find another career with your Princeton degree. The game is now predicated on speed and space. This tape analysis clearly shows you have no clue about utilizing space. Coaches are supposed to set up their players to succeed and not fail. You are clearly setting up your QB to fail and your overall unit. You were hired as a QB whisperer and these warts your QB has are an indictment on your inability to coach. If Joe Judge was truly the HC why hasn’t he fired this guy? Oh wait he didn’t hire him. John Mara did.

John, seriously, wake the F up!

Prophet’s Pulpit-WFT vs NYG Game preview & Recap of Broncos Debacle

Written by: Tony “The Prophet” Yantosca

It was a new season of hope for Giants fans and the #TogetherBlue Nation. It was highlighted by wild free agency spending including the huge contract for Leonard Williams. However, by 7pm Sunday September 12th, all those hopes were dashed like an untied, cheap boat in the Gulf of Mexico during Hurricane Katrina! The Giants were playing a beatable team that won fewer games than they did. There were huge questions coming into the season:
➢ The offensive line was bad last year and it looked bad in the preseason. Was it improved at all?
➢ Could Daniel Jones stop the turnovers?
➢ Could the offense explode with all the weapons added in the offseason?
➢ Could Jason Garrett get more imaginative with the offense?

The answer to all these is NO!

I said in last week’s Pulpit, the Giants have to get off to a fast start. Did they? No! The Broncos won the time of possession in the first quarter, 10:09 to 4:51 and 18:59 for the half vs 10:01 for the Giants. The Giants were ahead. 7-3 in the second quarter. The game turned when the Giants recovered a fumble at 4:05 left in the first half at their own 4-yard line. This we thought stopped a Broncos touchdown. The Giants managed 3 yards on 3 plays and had to punt.

On the other hand, Denver torched the Giants for successive pass plays of 14, 16, and 17 yards. With 13 seconds left Bridgewater hit Patrick for a 2-yard touchdown which culminated a 7 play, 57-yard drive. It only took 2:17. When that happened I said this game was over.

The Broncos received the second half kickoff and go on a 16 play, 75-yard touchdown drive. It took 8:12 off the clock before the Giants got the ball back. Bridgewater hit a 4th and 1 touchdown pass to Okwuegbunam. Say that fast 3 times. The Broncos were 3 for 3 on 4th down conversions on the day. “Teddy Two Gloves” got rid of the ball very quickly in 2.1 seconds as the defense tried to tackle him. He was only sacked twice.

When the Giants get the ball back, they drive from their own 25-yard line to the Broncos 22-yard line. Then we get the #DannyTurnover obligatory turnover, a fumble. Even though Jones had 2 hands on the ball it was easily knocked out. Jones Scoreboard is now 40 Turnovers and 38 passing touchdowns!

I said the game was over but the last nail in the coffin was the 70-yard run by aging Gordon. The Bronco OL sealed 3 Giants on the left and 2 on the right. It was a scene right out of the NFL Matchup show from years ago. Merrill Hoge used to say, “What we have here is a seal here and a seal there and Gordon runs right up the Kanally!” He completely outran the entire New York defense (there were 7 defenders trapped to his right) including Bradberry and Adoree Jackson had the last shot and he couldn’t reach him! Jones got a garbage time last minute drive vs the Broncos prevent defense. He ran into the endzone unopposed as time expired. The Giants as far as I am concerned only scored 7 measly points.


It is on to face the Redskins which is one of the top 5 defenses in the league on a short week on the road. This is the 177th regular season meeting between these 2 teams. #DannyTurnover will not be facing the patsy team that he got half of his 8 wins from. The Giants always play better on the road especially as an underdog. However, I think the Washington team with their ferocious front seven (Chase Young, Montez Sweat) will melt the Giants Swiss cheese offensive line. Jones and the Giants will have 2-3 turnovers. The offense is anemic again with Garrett. The Chargers threw for 334 yards last week vs Washington.

The pass game is the only way that the Giants will have to win. The Giants start to have to use their new weapons. Toney is supposed to be the “Human Joy Stick”. Let’s get him in space. Try a jet sweep or a quick hitter on a linebacker. Golladay is the shiny $72M X receiver. Let’s get him 100 catches. He was 4 for 64 yards on 6 targets. Rudolph, with Engram who missed his 15th game as a Giant (He is missing his 16th this week!), only caught 2 passes for 8 yards. Sheppard who Jones developed chemistry in year 1 had the best day at 113 yards on 7 catches and a touchdown. I said in the Pulpit he would haver at least 5. Jones will have to get rid of the ball quickly so look to an increased screen game. However, with Garrett you know it will be conservative which will spell doom.

The Giants got only ran for 60 yards and Jones was the leading rusher with 27 yards! They will not be able to rush for much more against this Washington front.

The Washington offense was hit with a big loss when Fitzpatrick left the game and will not be back for 6-8 weeks. His replacement Heinicke is not as experienced as the 14-year veteran and I feel the scoring potential is cut 20-25% with Heinicke. It’s a downgrade for McLaurin and Thomas. Washington will try and establish a run game with Gibson to set up play action to McLaurin and Thomas. The Broncos picked on Peppers in the pass game and Washington should do the same. I think they will also want to run to keep the Giants off the field. They can win the time of possession like the Broncos and let their defense get them good field position off turnovers.


The last 3 games in this series have been decided by an average of 3.3 points. Barkley will be on a pitch count again given that it is a short week. I can see this anemic offense scoring more than 2 touchdowns. I am calling this game Washington 20 and the Giants 17. I like the Under more than picking a side in this one. 14 points represents the average points that the Giants have scored in their last 7 games with the Genius Garrett. I would have fired him Sunday night. My original prediction was 20-14 but the Giants are a great road underdog at 9-2 ATS as a road dog. Off the top of my head, it is probably 16-5. Teams always do better after an embarrassment. Make sure you get Gmen +3.5 (some place at -3) because you need the hook to win. The Giants will have their only chance to win in the first 5 weeks next week vs the hapless Falcons off 10 days rest.


I am going to put up the scoreboard below every week at the end of the article:

Dave Gettleman’s Record since becoming GM: 15-34
Giants Record since last Super Bowl win: 51-68
Giants Record since 2017: 18-47.
Daniel Jones Record: 8-19
Winning Seasons since 2011 Super Bowl Year: 2

Giants Groundhog Day…Michael Lombardi Please Lobby For Giants Football Operations Job

Written by: Paul Burke

It is early September again. It is like the scenes in Groundhog Day when the alarm clock goes off with the same song from a radio station, the same exact surroundings, and same exact characters in place. We drive ourselves crazy to believe things will be different this season but it is like Lucy pulling the football away while Charlie Brown kicks thin air and falls on his ass.

Michael Lombardi ranted on GM Shuffle podcast about what we here on NYGUndergound have been agonizingly pointing out for over two years. This organization is dysfunctional and has been for the last 10 years. Lombardi is correct that they cannot evaluate their own players. It is a systemic problem. It is a football operation organizational issue. The microcosm of Jabril Peppers and how he is utilized in game management and put in a position to fail versus succeed sums up the dysfunction of the overall organization. John Mara needs to get the Heck out of the way and hire an experienced professional President of Football Operations. John Mara needs to stop pretending he knows what he is doing. If bottom line earnings in the NFL was based on wins and losses versus the sharing of T.V. revenue, John Mara would have been fired in corporate America long ago. John Mara is stuck in time. He is stuck in what is called the Endowment Bias. He overvalues his inner circle and continues to hire from his inner circle. He stuck with Reese too long. Overvalued Eli and stuck with him too long. Hired dinosaur Gettleman. Hired Garrett. Sorry Lombardi it is not because he went to Princeton but from his days as a back up QB with the Giants. John Mara has never worked in the real business world. He was a lawyer by trade for a few years before working under his Dad as the ownership group. In fact this is a family tradition as Wellington was saved by Pete Rozelle by getting to hire George Young in those dark years of the 70s. Just go back in the history of NYG front office and you will see a noticeable trend over many years.

Since 2018, the Giants have a 15-34 record.

What we are trying to implore is an open letter to Michael Lombardi to lobby for the position of President of Football Operations for the New York Football Club. Mr. Lombardi has lots of experience in working for the likes of Walsh, Parcells and Belichik. He worked in many roles in Front Offices. Surely the position of President of Football of Operations for a storied franchise would be more fulfilling and rewarding than a podcast or occasional articles in the Athletic?

We are tired of the losing. We are tired of the same dysfunction. We are tired of the same poor draft decisions. We are tired of being stuck in time. We are tired of listening to local media put lipstick on a pig and homer fans telling us to be more positive as it is different this year. John Mara is not going to sell his team. Why would any rationale person do that? The business is built to make money whether he losses or wins. Heck, I now live in Detroit and they never win but still make a profit year in and year out. Mara needs to step aside and focus on the business side and leave the football operations to an experienced professional. Otherwise, it will be Groundhog Day for another 10 years.

Broncos 27 Giants 7

Written by: Glenn Warciski

Full Bloom Fumble

Another year and another opening loss. In fact the Giants have lost 5 consecutive opening games. The last time the Giants won an opening game: 2016 at Dallas. The last time they won an opener at home:, 2010 vs Carolina. Oh boy, it has been brutal on the loyal Giants fans who pay top dollar for a crappy product.

Sheesh. The losing continues. Even with all the offensive additions in the off-season, the Giants could only muster 7 points. (I am not going to count the garbage time touchdown.)

I am extremely disappointed with HC Joe Judge. Now in his second year, his team looked pathetic in front of a surprisingly energized crowd. His team lays an enormous egg on the 20th anniversary of 9/11. Shame on you Joe. The festive crowd went home hanging their heads once again. Brooding about what is it going to take to start winning again.

Speaking of stinking up MetLife, Danger prone Daniel Jones with his obligatory fumble. When I saw him fumble yet again, I do not believe his gratuitous and careless behavior is going to be corrected. As we have stated on this blog, passing in the NFL is king. In order to win in the 21st century NFL, a team has to have a competent quarterback who can help his team put points on the scoreboard.

The Giants defense has a lot of potential and I like Graham as a coach. However, in this modern NFL the rules favor the offense. Therefore, I do not have any evidence we have hope for the OL in addition to Daniel Jones. This offensive line stinks. This falls on Dave Gettlefraud. He vowed to fix it. With 4 years under his watch , there has not been much of an upgrade compared to 2017. The other issue is Joe Judge’s misguided thinking about the offensive line. He thinks they can fix it and coach it up. It’s NE bias as Pats had/have a genius coach. And Judge is not. Throw in OC Jason Garrett’s piss poor game plan and play calling, this team is going to lose a lot of games in 2021.

Other observations:

Kenny Gollady: he was wearing an invisibility cloak. Never a factor in this game. 4 catches for 64 yards.

Joe Judge pulled a Jim Schwartz. Challenged a touchdown. Why? All touchdowns are reviewed. His blunder cost his team a timeout.

Giants have a short week. They play the Football team on Thursday. Judge has to get his Giants a win. Otherwise, this season can slowly begin to slip away.

The coffee is going to taste better in Denver tomorrow. Former Giants HC Pat Shurmur is the offensive coordinator for the Broncos. It had to be satisfying to beat his old team. Especially since he was scapegoated for the two dismal years in 2018 and 2019. He got fired but Dave Gettleman was retained.

Tony will have a more detailed analysis with his Prophet’s Point After.

Prophet’s Pulpit- Week One 2021…Giants vs Broncos Preview and Prediction

Written by: Tony “The Prophet” Yantosca


Here we go, Football 2021 is here. It’s the Prophet’s 7th year writing at this website. It is also my 62nd Giants’ season. I started watching this team at age 7 and I have seen it all over that time, the good, bad and ugly. It is an exciting time for all who love this game! It is a challenging water shed year for Dave Gettleman, Daniel Jones and Giants fans everywhere. 

After 2 years, we don’t know if Daniel Jones, who was the 6th overall pick in 2019, is a starting NFL quarterback. He has more turnovers 39 than touchdowns, 37. He has only won 8 games in 2 years but he has not beat a winning team. Four of those wins came from a rebuilding Washington team that has a losing record both years. Garrett hid Jones last year. Jones only had 210 yards/game passing. All the games they won, the Gmen had over 100 yards rushing. One game they even had over 190!

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Prophets Manifesto 2021

Written by: Tony “The Prophet” Yantosca

I am entering my 7th year on nygunderground.com providing the truth about the Giants that is not pom-pom waving or sugar coated. To paraphrase the line from the movie A Few Good Men, “can you handle the truth”? Hopefully you can and continue reading now and every week for an update before every game in “The Prophet’s Pulpit”.

Dave Gettleman’s legacy is tied to his decision to take Daniel Jones as the overall number 6 draft pick in the 2019 draft. He willingly put his head in the noose with Jones. Both would either sink or swim together. If Jones is a bust, Gettleman will be put out to pasture for a premature retirement even though he is already 70 years old.  In his first 2 years Jones has more turnovers, 39, than touchdowns, 37! Like his predecessor, Jerry Reese, Gettleman went on a free agency spending spree to ensure that if Daniel Jones fails it is not going to be his fault. I will refer to Jerry Reese going forward as Jerry “Reach” as we all know his legendary reaches like Ereck Flowers and Eli Apple to name a few. 

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Prophet’s Point After

Giants 23 Cowboys 19

Written by: Tony “The Prophet” Yantosca

It was a tale to 2 halves in the Giants Finale. The Giants got outto an early lead and hung on after the Dallas comeback in the second half. The Giants have been starting the recent games very slowly. Judge must had made a fast start a priority this week. They only took a little over 3 minutes to score on the opening drive. Shepard ran in a 23-yard touchdown and Gano missed the extra point. Gano set his personal record today with 30 consecutive field goals which is also the Giants record. He hit a 50-yard field goal to make the score 23 and that is also a record. He has 5 50 yard or longer field goals which is the Giants record. Shepard had his best game of the year with 8 catches on 10 targets for 112 yards and a touchdown. He also had 24 yards rushing on 2 attempts with the long 23-yard TD run. Dallas cornerback Anthony Brown was beat constantly by Shepard. Brown played off Shepard and Dallas never gave him any help. 

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Prophet’s Pulpit- Cowboys vs NYG- Preview and Prediction

Written by: Tony “The Prophet” Yantosca

The Giants play the Dallas Cowboys this week for a possible trip to the playoffs. The winner of this game if the Washington team loses will be the NFC divisional winner. More absurdly that winner will host a home playoff in the playoffs with a 6-10 record!. Right now, that game would be vs the Buccaneers pending Sunday’s action been completed.

The recent history for the Gmen vs the Cowboys is not good. Dallas has won the last 7 in a row. The last time the Giants won was 12/11/16 at home by a field goal 10-7. The Giants arebehind in the all-time series history 45-69-2. The last meeting was the game where Dak got hurt and was out for the season. Dalton had brought the Cowboys back for a 34-point tie. We all thought the game was going to overtime. The Cowboys had the ball at their own 12-yard line with 52 seconds to play. The Giants played a prevent defense that prevented the win. Dalton threw 15 yards to Cooper, 19 yards to Gallup, and the dagger, 38 yards to Gallup. Lewis had bad coverage on him with a top tap on the sideline. After the review the catch was good. Zuerlein hit a 34-yard field goal to beat the Giants 37-34. 

For the Giants to win their last game the game plan is simple. They need to run the ball for well over 100 yards. This will also take the pressure off Daniel Jones. He is immobile since he suffered the hamstring injury. Jones was sacked 8 times by the Cardinals and 6 times by the Ravens last week. The offensive line that was playing better mid-season has been breaking down. Jones has just 3 yards rushing the last 2 weeks on 1 attempt. The Cowboys allow a league worst 161 rushing yards/game and they are tied for the league worst 5.0 yards/carry with Houston. Gallman and to a lesser extent Morris have to have a big game. Dallas is 32nd vs the rush but they are 11 vs the pass. The Gmen are 29th in passing which is another reason why the run game is critical.

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Prophet’s Point After-Ravens 27 NYG 13

Written by: Tony “The Prophet” Yantosca

For the third week in a row, the Giants get off to a slow start and this week’s game was over before the end of the first quarter. The New York Football Giants never got off the train that they took to Baltimore. The Ravens took the opening kickoff for 82 yards on 13 plays that ate up 8:12 minutes. The Giants go 3 and out and take 1:36 off the clock. The Ravens again go on a long drive of 10 plays, 65 yards on a 5:05 drive. At 11 seconds left in the 1st quarter this game is over!

The last 3 weeks the Giants have been off the Joe Judge script for the Giants to win. The script is first rush for 100+ yards/game. This keeps the other team off the field and minimizes what Daniel Jones needs to do. Second, get a good game out of the defense holding the opposition to 20 points or less. The Giants are 31st in scoring with 17 points per game. Thirdly, the plan is to keep Daniel Jones passing around 200 yards/game. This minimizes turnovers. He has 14 this year which is down from last year’s 24.

The Giants got behind Sunday by 14 points in the first half to the Ravens. They were down 13-3 to the Browns at the end of the first half last week. Two weeks ago, they were down 13-0 to the Cardinals at the half and 20-0 midway through the third quarter. All these games were over early taking the Giants out of the 2020 winning formula. Against the Ravens the Giants had 54 yards rushing. Against the Browns the Gmen ran for 74 yards and vs the Cardinals they ran for 78 yards.

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Prophet’s Pulpit-NYG vs Ravens Preview & Prediction

Written by: Tony “The Prophet” Yantosca

The Giants without Daniels Jones and Pro Bowl cornerback James Bradberry were beat by 2 touchdowns by the Browns last Sunday night. The outcome was never in doubt. Some questionable offensive decisions and a Giants team that came up small in the red zone. The Browns running tandem of Chubb and Hunt had a night off as they only combined for 71 yards rushing, Mayfield without Bradberry sliced and diced the Giants zone defense for 297 yards, 84% completion percentage on 32 passes, 2 touchdowns, and a 126.2 quarterback rating. 

This week’s opponent, the Ravens, have been playing much better and need to win the next 2 games to have a chance at a playoff berth. The only way the Giants can win is to limit the run game because they are not going to stop it. They need to force the Ravens to throw more than they want. Bradberry will be covering the Ravens only deep threat, Hollywood Brown. Snead and Boykin are not much of a threat. Mark Andrews is probably the 4th best tight in the league behind Kelce, Kittle and Waller. He has had 301 yards on 22 catches on 27 targets and 2 touchdowns the past 4 weeks. Martinez and the Giants safeties will have to keep him in check. Andrews is the passing red zone target.

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